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I was reading through some things the other night and came across one that intrigued me. The fact of sleeping in the bed being a privilege. I have thought of this one before, have not used it yet.
So a simple couple of questions, has anyone ever experienced this from either side? I wonder also, discipline or punishment?
So a simple couple of questions, has anyone ever experienced this from either side? I wonder also, discipline or punishment?
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 2:55 PMi was forced to sleep on the floor once... as punishment for oversleeping and missing class as a result. It was a long, cold night and i only had one small blanket, no pillow. To put it bluntly, it sucked... and no, not the good kind of sucking. ;)
This was years ago and i'm happy to say i have not been punished (nor disciplined) in this manner since.
cheers,
spankee -
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Re: Bed discipline
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 3:14 PMTo me, this would definitely be a punishment.
It seems to be an extreme form of silent treatment.
I would not like it at all.
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 7:18 PMThe only type of "bed" discipline I use is bedtime spankings. Often these can occur way earlier than that persons "normal" bedtime.
It might just be me, but that seems more "Mistress/slaveish" rather than domestic style discipline. Anyway, cant really help but its an interesting concept. :)
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 9:21 PM"So a simple couple of questions, has anyone ever experienced this from either side? I wonder also, discipline or punishment? "
No one has ever made me sleep on the floor/not in the bed because 'the bed' has always been mine. But I used to sleep on the floor for a variety of reasons when i was younger and occassionally will find myself napping in corners or floors now. I like it. And since some people may also like it, being made to sleep on the floor would not be a form of punishment.
However...if the reason is not being allowed the warmth of master or mistresses body then that would be punishment. Being told that they aren't wanted...:( owch.
Then again, I often slip into dog mode and imagine being able to sleep near the bed, being on the floor and it's a priviledge.
Like everything i guess it all depends on how you present it and what the people's fetishes are. If your taking a poll though--my ultimate vote is bed is a priviledge anyway so not being allowed into the covers isn't a punishment like being ignored during the waking hours is.
Have a good night,
iris -
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Re: Bed discipline
Fri, August 5, 2005 - 9:31 AMAs I considered this, I was thinking from a top point of view, clearly the bottom would understand that it was not an aspect of not being wanted, but that a teaching of the bed being a privilege. A deprivation of the master's warmth would also be a part of the discipline, the realization that it is a privilege to be with them.
I guess I would hold more to a discipline and not a punishment. The use of it as a punishment would be really harsh I think.
Thanks all for your responses so far.
I like your dog mode idea there Iris, very cute. I can just imagine a puppy all curled up at the foot of the bed, waiting patiently for their master to awaken and play.... -
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Fri, August 5, 2005 - 12:08 PM"The use of it as a punishment would be really harsh I think."
i suppose the punishment was harsh... but highly effective. One of the lessons i learned from it was that sleeping in His bed is indeed a privilege. And for me, denial of privileges is a very effective punishment. Not only did i not miss another class... to this day i do not oversleep without specific permission to do so. Also, as i said, i realized just how special it is to be allowed to sleep in His bed.
A challenge i face with every punishment handed down is not allowing myself to contract and feel sorry for myself, no matter how "harsh" the punishment may seem. There are lessons for me to learn every time i earn punitive behavior adjustment and if i allow myself to judge the punishment in any light, i am denying myself the opportunity to grow and learn from the situation. Every circumstance i find myself in, whether it be discipline or punishment or play or reward, provides me the chance to become a better sub, a better slave, a better wife, a better person. It is a disservice to myself as well as my Masters for me to question or judge Their decision to punish me in any way They deem appropriate.
This instance provided me the importance of being responsible to my obligations (not missing class), the necessity of taking care of myself (going to bed at a decent hour so as to maintain a healthy sleep pattern), and embracing the truth of sleeping next to Him in His bed (as the utter privilege and blessing it is).
All of that said, i certainly wouldn't have minded being taught those things through discipline before the need for punishment presented itself.
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cheers,
spankee -
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 1:32 PMWow, well described spankee. You are so wonderful with words.
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Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:50 AM"No one has ever made me sleep on the floor/not in the bed because 'the bed' has always been mine. "
IMO, This should not matter in the least. To the top or the bottom.
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Sat, November 12, 2005 - 9:28 AMFor me being allowed to sleep in Master's bed is a priviledge. i have never thought of it as bed discipline, but i do know that it is a priviledge that He can allow or not. Just as anything else is a priviledge. i do enjoy sleeping in the floor by His bed, and when allowed of course i do enjoy sleeping in His bed. i also realize that when He allows me in His bed it is for His convenience and not my own.
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Re: Bed discipline
Tue, March 7, 2006 - 6:55 PMI usually slept on the floor when I was collared. Occaisonally in a separate bed. Always in chains though. I was not allowed on the furniture, usually. But was sometimes invited to sit at the table to shar a meal... but this was not discipline. It was my place at the time.
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 1:35 PMI have done this occasionally and wheras it certainly is a harsh punishment it does have a major drawback. You sleep very badly and are therefore less attentive to your partner than you could be the following day. My partner now prefers other punishments.
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Fri, November 3, 2006 - 10:02 PMWhen we play, Daddy chains me to the bed at night so I "can't get away", with a chain leash attached to my collar......but it's not a punishment or anything. It makes me feel very safe and I love it. -
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Sat, November 4, 2006 - 3:05 PMWhen I was collared, I was not allowed on the furniture unless specifically invited. These were just the rules, so it wasn't really punishment - just a clear delineation of my place. I was often invited to share a meal sitting in a chair, but never to sleep in the same bed.
In a BDSM context, I think the most severe punishment is withdrawal of attention, contact and/or intimacy. So, being kicked out of bed when one was accustomed to sleeping there would be serious punishment, I think.
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Re: Bed discipline
Sat, January 27, 2007 - 6:37 PMSleeping in my bed is DEFINITELY a privilege. My husband normally sleeps in his own small room and is sometimes allowed to sleep on the carpet at the foot of my bed. For the purposes of discipline he is locked in the bathroom for the night. He is rarely permitted to remain in my bed for a night. -
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 9:01 AMFor me also being allowed to sleep in Mistress bed is a priviledge. i don't perceive it as discipline, but rather as a reward that Mistress can give or deny depending on my training progress. If not invited i usually sleep on the floor by Her bed, collared, with chastity device and most often plugged. Sometimes Mistress allows me to sleep on bed just over Her foot to warm it.
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Re: Bed discipline
Fri, July 6, 2007 - 4:50 AMWe also use the "spanking and being sent to bed early" as a discipline. Sometimes it involves going without dinner, and sometimes corner time is included. But inevitably after our aftercare of loving hugging and tucking in, my girl cries herself to sleep and wakes up feeling contrite, feminine, and cared for.
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 7:36 AMIn answer to your question it was definitly punishment. My husband/master uses this when i am not acting pleased about serving him it is a form of mild rejection.I hate it but it is very effective.
Anna
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Re: Bed discipline
Wed, October 3, 2007 - 3:02 PMWe have left our slaves chained in a sleeping cage at the foot of our bed. We often chain her neck collar to the bed, or hold her on a leash while we sleep together. We have used diapers as a form of discipline on her in bed for overnight restraints, but never considered not allowing her to sleep in the same bed as us a form of discipline.
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Re: Bed discipline
Wed, October 10, 2007 - 1:44 PMDo you make her drink a large quantity of liquid prior to bed time, or diaper her for some hours prior to bed time to be sure that the diapering becomes punishment, or is it just the humiliation of being diapered that serves as punishment. I would think that sleeping in a cold wet or soiled diaper could be a pretty good lesson. A quart of warm water to drink an hour before retiring and an OTK spanking while a suppository dissolves just prior to diapering and going to bed sounds pretty effective to me. -
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Sun, December 21, 2008 - 2:30 AMUnfortunately, my Master saw your post, on a night when I seriously messed up by breaking an important rule of his. He's diapered me and has me staying up to drink an uncomfortable amount of warm water right now. But it's the suppository I'm really dreading. I know I messed up and need to be punished but I really wish he hadn't seen this idea of yours. It's going to be a really miserable night.... -
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Sun, December 21, 2008 - 2:41 PMOh Subbie, you are really in trouble. In my experience, the supporitories make you pee a lot more! The diaper always leaks serious amounts :(
We go through on and off cycles with Domination. When my Wife/Mistress is heavily into it, She wants the bed to Herself and I sleep on the floor. Actually I sleep quite well on the floor. We were doing one night a week when She put suppositories in me, diapered me and chained me to the bed. I had to clean up the mess, of course.
The one serious drawback to routine sleeping on the floor is that it eliminates the cuddling and closeness. Being submissive, i accepted it. I learned that i have to beg for the cuddling that i need.
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Re: Bed discipline
Sun, November 11, 2007 - 10:56 PMI used to be in a relationship where my Master had the bed and I had a sleeping place in the closet. Sometimes he would take me into bed with him. I was really perfectly comfortable in the closet and to some extent, even preferred it, because I liked having the walls around me. It was nice going to bed with him, although frankly, I didn't feel as though I needed to sleep in the same bed with him to derive either warmth or comfort from him. We had a lot of physical contact outside of the time we spent sleeping! I've always been at least partially given towards solitude, so perhaps this is why it didn't bother me. I liked having my own space and sometimes sharing his.
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Re: Bed discipline
Mon, November 12, 2007 - 10:51 AMYay, my first post..
Anyway, I sleep nightly beside my Master's bed, and I love it. I've actually gotten so used to the floor that when he allows me to sleep in the bed beside him, I occasionally wake up in pain, and during the day when I have free time I can lay on the floor anywhere and it's like being in bed.
While it hasn't happened yet, I could see being sent to the floor as a pretty harsh manner of discipline, however. If there was a night he allowed me to sleep beside him and I misbehaved and he sent me to the floor, I am certain I would be heartbroken. It's all circumstantial.
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Sun, December 21, 2008 - 5:41 AMDaddy and I are about to move into our own house. I am going to get my own room with a day bed. He said I can sleep in the room with him if I've been good, but otherwise, I have to stay in the little bed. I think this is a good idea. I haven't slept on the floor before, but once I was made to sleep in a small playpen beside a former Daddy's bed. That was hard and uncomfortable. I eventually cried until he let me in the bed.
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Tue, February 10, 2009 - 8:30 AMI never thought of this kinf of punishment b4.. my fav. is spanking in bed just b4 bedtime....
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Re: Bed discipline
Thu, May 21, 2009 - 10:56 AMWe are still very new to the discipline/punishment aspects but when I've been bad Daddy has slept elsewhere in the past. I got the bed, but still felt the punishment sting since what I want is to sleep with him. For me the priviledge is hearing him breathe or wrapping myself around him but has nothing to do with the comfort of the bed.
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Re: Bed discipline
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 3:11 AMHello
Very new to this. Do you mind me asking a stupid question? What is a good way of bringing up the subject of needing punishment? Can you suggest a 'start off' spanking - ten stokes with a belt? Should I try spanking myself first.? -
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Unsu...
Re: Bed discipline
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 11:53 AMIf you have someone to answer to, then I would not suggest spanking yourself. That is their job and you'd be taking it away from them. Sit down and talk to your Top/husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend, etc about discipline and explain why you feel it would help you. Just have a good talk about it.
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